“WE BELONG TO NO BLOC:” Yaakov Asher Issues Ultimatum: No Government Without Draft Law Protecting Yeshiva Bochurim
United Torah Judaism chairman MK Yaakov Asher has declared that his party will not join or support any future government until legislation protecting the status of yeshiva bochurim is actually passed, announcing a major shift in the party’s political strategy ahead of Israel’s October 27 elections.
In his first extensive interview since assuming the leadership of United Torah Judaism and Degel HaTorah, Asher revealed that Rav Dov Landau had issued explicit instructions that the party should no longer identify itself with any political bloc, including the right-wing alliance led by Prime Minister Binyomin Netanyahu.
Speaking with Yishai Cohen in the Kikar HaShabbat studio, Asher acknowledged mistakes made during the outgoing government’s term, criticized several prominent political figures, and insisted that the chareidi parties would place the needs of their constituents ahead of political alliances.
The interview comes amid considerable frustration within the chareidi community following years of uncertainty surrounding the legal status of yeshiva bochurim, the loss of exemptions, financial restrictions affecting Torah institutions, and arrests connected to the military draft.
Asked why chareidi voters should participate in another election after the difficulties experienced under a government that had been widely regarded as sympathetic to their concerns, Asher argued that abandoning political participation would only make matters worse.
“Will it stop here? Do you read what they say every day? Do you see their intentions every day? And if, in a completely right-wing government, we didn’t manage to achieve those two things… we managed to save many other things: the Jewish character of the State of Israel, we blocked dozens of anti-religious laws, not a single such law passed during this term! We kept the educational institutions going… But will it end here? In other words, if things are bad for us today, should we take another step to make them even worse? Does that seem logical to you?!” Asher said.
While defending his party’s accomplishments, Asher conceded that the chareidi representatives had made significant strategic errors, particularly in their handling of judicial reform and its implications for legislation regulating the status of yeshiva students.
“Is there anyone who doesn’t make mistakes? The big mistake that perhaps everyone made… not everyone understood that judicial reform was supposed to serve us in the draft law. From our perspective, we needed the override clause. It could be that we should have, at that point… I take responsibility,” he said.
Asher explained that the proposed override clause, which would have allowed the Knesset to reenact legislation struck down by the Supreme Court under certain conditions, had been especially important to the chareidi parties because of the legal obstacles facing a new draft law.
He also dismissed suggestions that a compromise framework advanced by the president could have provided a lasting solution.
“The president, with all due respect… had no teeth against anyone. And when you take parts out of the reform, one of the first things removed is the override clause, because the court would never have allowed that! In the end, it would have come back to the same things,” Asher argued.
Drawing on those experiences, the new UTJ chairman outlined what he described as a nonnegotiable condition for participation in the next coalition.
“United Torah Judaism will not enter a government that does not first pass, de facto, de facto, the law regulating the status of yeshiva students, known as the draft law. Period. We will not enter, support, or be part of a government that does not first pass the draft law. Afterward, we will be partners,” Asher declared.
Pressed on whether his condition would also rule out supporting a government from outside the coalition, Asher reiterated that the legislation must come first.
“I told you in Hebrew… From our perspective, the correct law is one that addresses someone who sits and learns, whose Torah is his occupation, and someone who sits and learns should not face sanctions either,” he said.
The chairman’s remarks represent a departure from the approach taken before the 2022 election, when the chareidi parties publicly aligned themselves with Netanyahu and the broader right-wing bloc.
Asher maintained that the earlier alliance reflected the traditional attitudes of Likud voters toward Torah and religious observance, but he distinguished those voters from individual Likud lawmakers whom he accused of undermining chareidi interests.
“It’s true that we were in that bloc with our eyes open… The Likud public loves tradition, kisses the hands of sages, and gives a place of honor to a ben Torah. We have no quarrel with the Likud public. We have problems with the Likud because weeds have grown there, like Yuli Edelstein, like Dan Illouz, and others whom Likud did not know how to control,” he said.
Asher then disclosed the instructions he said he had received from Rav Landau regarding the party’s future political commitments.
“We received an explicit instruction. You want to ask what changed for him, for Rav Dov Landau, for the gadol hador? Ask him! But we received an explicit instruction: Right now, we are not talking about blocs. We are a bloc that has responsibility for this country… He says not to talk about blocs; we do not belong to blocs. Whoever wants us should come and negotiate with the bloc, should come and ask the bloc. That is the decision we have right now,” Asher explained.
He stressed that the party had not been instructed to work toward removing Netanyahu or installing another political leader, and that its future decisions would be guided by the needs of the chareidi community.
“We have no intention of participating in any of that. We received no instruction to make a deal with anyone, no instruction to oust anyone, we have no revenge to take, no one to crown, nothing. We have one thing that interests us, and this is a lesson we learned from the previous term: We are going to be selfish. Selfish for you, and for your children, and for everyone,” he said.
Asher Takes Aim at Bennett, Winter and Other Political FiguresThe interview also featured pointed criticism of several politicians seeking support from chareidi voters.
Asked about Naftali Bennett, Asher dismissed the former prime minister as politically inconsistent, accusing him of repeatedly changing his positions.
“Naftali Bennett… Bennett is a joke! He’s a walking joke of a man who has already changed eight opinions, and even when he had opinions, they were always for sale or rent. He’s a very nice person, a walking joke, what can I do?” Asher said.
Asher also addressed remarks by former IDF Brigadier General Ofer Winter concerning military service and the draft law, suggesting that Winter’s campaign statements were driven by electoral considerations.
“People are now fighting a battle for survival over every vote, every quarter of a Knesset seat, and he has to deal with that… But who knows better than he does, speaking of the draft law he talks about… when he knows that the IDF decided to stop his advancement because he said ‘Shema Yisroel’ before some military operation? So he’s going to convince us that there’s no problem and that the Torah will not be forgotten from our descendants if we all go into the army? Forget it, it’s all election foilishtik,” Asher said.
His comments referred to the controversy surrounding Winter’s military career and his public expressions of religious belief. Asher used that example to question assurances that the military would fully accommodate the religious needs of chareidi recruits.
Regarding Benny Gantz, however, Asher adopted a considerably more respectful tone, explaining that their discussions had been on a personal level rather than part of any political arrangement.
“I think he is a good person and a man of values, and I think he could have contributed somewhat to this matter. But perhaps because he is a man of values and because he is that kind of person, he is being punished in the polls, because today it is a world of falsehood,” Asher said.
UTJ Unity, Rav Gafni’s Role and Relations With ShasTurning to internal party matters, Asher rejected suggestions that longstanding differences between Degel HaTorah and Agudas Yisroel could result in a split during coalition negotiations.
“There is no split between us, and there will be no split between us. And even if there were issues… we reached agreements about them. We sat together with mutual respect and said: There are gedolei Torah, they can disagree on certain matters, and they know how to work things out among themselves. There will not be a situation where, during negotiations, there are leaks saying ‘these people agree to this and those people don’t agree to that.’ That will not happen. We will all come together: me and Goldknopf, and Porush, and Pindrus, and everyone. And Dudi Zaltz, with Hashem’s help, will also get in, and we will come hand in hand with him as well,” he said.
Asher also addressed the departure of MK Moshe Gafni from the party chairmanship, emphasizing his continued respect for the veteran Degel HaTorah leader.
“From our perspective, he is the chairman of the Degel HaTorah movement, he is a symbol to us, he is an example to us, he is someone we learned from… On the day that the gedolei Torah decide, they decide according to their considerations… There is no blemish whatsoever. We have only to learn from Rav Gafni, to continue forward, to consult with him and benefit from his assistance, and with Hashem’s help, that is what we will do. And at the victory celebration, you will see all of us dancing together,” Asher said.
He stressed that decisions regarding party leadership are made under the guidance of the gedolei Torah and that he intends to continue seeking Gafni’s advice and experience.
Asked about his relationship with Shas chairman Aryeh Deri, Asher described cooperation between the two parties on matters of fundamental importance to the chareidi community.
“Relations of respect and appreciation. We represent two parties, two movements, but there is one thing we know… In everything connected to the core issues of the chareidi public, we are united under the gedolei and chachmei haTorah of everyone! On that we stand together. They will not break us apart, they will not divide us,” he declared.
Working Chareidim and the Debate Over State-Chareidi SchoolsAnother significant portion of the interview focused on chareidi men and women who work for a living and who sometimes feel that their concerns receive attention from chareidi politicians only during election campaigns.
Asher rejected that criticism, insisting that his record demonstrates a commitment to serving different segments of the community, including families whose educational and professional needs differ from those of the traditional kollel community.
“I appreciate every person who learns Torah, every avreich in Kollel Chazon Ish I appreciate, I envy him, I want my children to be like that. And when I meet someone who works for his livelihood, I appreciate him too! I appreciate the community of Torah learners, but when it comes to serving them, I have to serve both, and I haven’t been doing that only since Election Day! Open my résumé… When was the Boston cheder opened in Bnei Brak? Who opened it? Who gave them a boost and a push? Who helped the Horev school in Ramat Gan… Who helped the Uziel school? Who opened three educational frameworks in Elad?” Asher asked.
He cited those institutions as examples of his involvement in developing educational options for families seeking different arrangements within the chareidi community.
However, Asher drew a distinction between supporting a variety of educational institutions and endorsing the state-chareidi school system, known in Israel by its Hebrew acronym, Mamlachti-Chareidi, or MAMACH.
He emphasized that decisions concerning the acceptability of such institutions belong to the gedolei Yisroel rather than elected representatives.
“MAMACH or not MAMACH — that is not my decision, it is a decision of the gedolei Yisroel! I heard Rav Shteinman speak about the danger that MAMACH could cause. What do we need to do? We will open educational frameworks. The community is growing, its different shades are growing, and we will provide frameworks… alternatives to MAMACH that will be even better. But do you know who is putting obstacles in our way? The Education Ministry itself! Because the Education Ministry wants to take control,” Asher said.
According to Asher, the appropriate response to changing educational needs is to establish additional institutions operating under the direction of chareidi Torah leadership, rather than expanding reliance on a government-administered educational framework.
He argued that the Education Ministry has complicated efforts to establish such alternatives, accusing it of seeking greater authority over chareidi education.
{Matzav.com}
