MK Uri Maklev, chairman of the United Torah Judaism faction and a senior member of the chareidi negotiating team on the draft law, says the combination of the proposed Basic Law on Torah study and legislation freezing the arrests of yeshivah students could bring an end to the current wave of arrests. In a wide-ranging interview, he also accused former Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and former Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee chairman Yuli Edelstein of repeatedly misleading the chareidi parties during negotiations, addressed Justice Minister Yariv Levin’s version of events, and discussed the political implications of Rav Dov Lando’s recent letter.
Speaking in an interview with Kikar Hashabbat, Maklev reflected on the collapse of efforts to pass a draft law and the growing legal and financial sanctions being imposed on Torah students.
Maklev placed much of the blame on Gallant and Edelstein, claiming they repeatedly backed away from understandings that had already been reached with the chareidi parties.
He also rejected reports that the chareidi factions had agreed to draft quotas amounting to 50 percent of an annual draft-age cohort or to a framework under which anyone not actively learning would immediately be inducted into the military.
Maklev likewise disputed Justice Minister Yariv Levin’s account of the order in which the coalition prioritized judicial reform and draft legislation.
Referring to Rav Dov Lando’s recent letter, Maklev indicated that the political relationship between Degel HaTorah and the broader right-wing bloc has changed significantly.
“We will do what is best for us,” he said. “I don’t think there will be a signature from all the faction leaders supporting it. We have no obligation to it,” referring to the right-wing bloc.
Asked how the situation had deteriorated to the point where yeshivah students are being arrested and financial penalties imposed on Torah students, Maklev responded, “It’s an obvious question. This is the result. There is Divine concealment. We went through many upheavals before reaching this point. At first we wanted to bring a government bill. Then the attorney general said the Defense Ministry had to provide an opinion. We sat with Gallant, and then he asked that Gantz also agree. My second home became the Kirya in Tel Aviv.”
Maklev sharply criticized both Edelstein and Gallant, accusing them of repeatedly deceiving the chareidi representatives.
“Without question, among the political figures, both of them misled us. The test is the outcome: Gallant and Edelstein misled us. Edelstein lied to us, and I never imagined he would do that. On the eve of the strike on Iran, we came much further than we ever thought we could agree to, and then he presented a different document. He backed away from the understandings reached before the strike on Iran. That was just another one of his lies.”
Addressing criticism directed at the chareidi parties over the failure to pass the draft law, Maklev insisted that party leaders fully appreciate the pain being experienced by the public.
“We are not disconnected from the issue. I personally feel it. We feel what the public is going through—the campaign of persecution and the hardships. We are living through this together. Of course people judge by the final result, but they also need to understand everything that happened along the way.”
Maklev also rejected Levin’s claim that the chareidi parties never requested delaying the draft law in favor of judicial reform.
“That’s not accurate,” he said. “I’m telling you differently. They explained to us why it would be better to first pass the judicial reform and only afterward the draft law.”
Responding to reports that the chareidi parties had accepted a target of drafting half of eligible recruits, Maklev said those claims were simply false.
“They said we agreed to targets of 50%. That’s not true! We did not agree to 50%! We spoke about 5,000 recruits out of the entire pool of approximately 80,000 eligible draftees. That’s less than 10%.”
He further insisted that the chareidi negotiating team never agreed that anyone not actively learning Torah would automatically be drafted.
“There was never such a thing. We didn’t agree to anything like that. First they must regulate the status of those who are learning, and only afterward can we discuss anything else.”
Turning again to Rav Landau’s letter stating that Degel HaTorah no longer feels bound to the right-wing bloc, Maklev said the letter marked a turning point.
“Something changed following the letter written by Maran Rav Dov Landau. I don’t think there will be a signature from all the faction leaders supporting it. We have no obligation to that bloc.”
At the same time, Maklev stressed that it is still too early to discuss coalition scenarios following the next election.
“We’ve said one thing: we’ll do what is best for us. I represent a public, and that public wants to hear that our first choice is a right-wing government. Even though we’ve taken blows from right-wing parties, it should not be assumed that we are automatically part of that bloc.”
Maklev concluded by explaining why United Torah Judaism continues to push for both the Basic Law on Torah study and the legislation freezing the arrests of yeshivah students.
“With the Basic Law on Torah study together with the law freezing the arrests, there is a possibility that the arrests will stop,” he said. “I assume these laws will have a majority in the Knesset.”
{Matzav.com}