THREE DAYS BEFORE THE MASSACRE: Newly Released Video Shows Ben Gvir Warning Hamas Was Growing Stronger and Demanding Tougher Action
Newly released footage shows Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir warning about Hamas’s expanding military capabilities and urging a more aggressive response to the terrorist organization just three days before the October 7, 2023, massacre.
The video, made public Monday by Ben Gvir’s Otzma Yehudit party, documents a visit the minister made to Kibbutz Nahal Oz on October 4, 2023. During the visit, he spoke with local security coordinators about the growing danger from Gaza and criticized the Israeli government’s longstanding approach of attempting to contain Hamas rather than confronting it militarily.
The conversation was recorded at 4:26 p.m., with the Gaza Strip visible behind the participants. In a tragic development, both security coordinators who took part in the discussion became victims of the Hamas assault three days later. One was murdered during the attack, while the other sustained serious injuries.
The footage captures Ben Gvir openly discussing differences within the Israeli government over how to respond to Hamas. He argued that the prevailing preference among government officials was to avoid a major military confrontation, even though delaying such a conflict would allow Hamas to accumulate more weapons and become a substantially greater threat.
“A large part of the government wants to avoid a conflict,” he said. “I’m actually one of those who believe we need to confront them, because if we don’t confront them today, we’ll confront them in 10 or 15 years, when they’ll have ten times as many rockets, ten times as much ammunition, and ten times as much power,” the minister said.
Ben Gvir also addressed the security situation along the Gaza border fence, where violent disturbances and attempts to approach the barrier had prompted disagreements over the appropriate response by Israeli forces.
Speaking during Chol Hamoed Sukkos, the minister said he had been challenging senior military officials, including the IDF chief of staff, over the rules governing the use of force against individuals approaching the border.
“I think that even now, during Sukkot, when they approach the fence, and this is something I’m arguing about with the Chief of Staff and security officials, I don’t want to go into too much detail because there are many discussions about it, but I’m one of those who believe we shouldn’t contain them,” he said.
The minister went further, arguing that Israeli forces should be authorized to use live ammunition against individuals approaching the security barrier with the intention of attacking Israel, rather than relying on less-lethal crowd-control measures.
“If they approach the fence and try to harm the State of Israel, we shouldn’t throw gas at them; we should shoot them. Because in any normal country, when someone approaches your fence and wants to destroy the country, you shoot to kill him,” he said.
The timing of the recording gives the remarks particular significance. On October 7, Hamas terrorists launched a massive assault from Gaza, overrunning Israeli border defenses and attacking communities and military installations across southern Israel.
Nahal Oz was among the communities devastated during the invasion, with residents and security personnel facing heavily armed terrorists who penetrated the kibbutz and surrounding military positions.
The footage demonstrates that Ben Gvir had publicly advocated a more confrontational policy toward Hamas immediately before the attack. It does not, however, establish that he had advance knowledge of the specific operation Hamas was preparing.
The decision by Otzma Yehudit to release the recording comes amid continuing debate in Israel over the security failures that preceded October 7 and the responsibility of political and military leaders for the policies followed in the years leading up to the massacre.
The video has also become part of Otzma Yehudit’s election campaign, with the party presenting it as evidence that Ben Gvir had challenged the government’s approach to Hamas before the massacre, rather than adopting a tougher position only after the attack.
In a statement accompanying the recording, the party went further, claiming that the disaster could have been prevented had Ben Gvir been responsible for Israel’s defense establishment.
“If Ben Gvir had been Defense Minister, October 7 would not have happened!” the party declared.
Ben Gvir also shared the footage on social media, drawing attention to the date, location, and precise time of the conversation. He pointed to the fate of the two security coordinators and suggested that the warnings he delivered that afternoon should have been taken more seriously.
The release comes one day before Israel’s October 27 Knesset elections, in which Otzma Yehudit is seeking to strengthen its representation and Ben Gvir has expressed ambitions to become defense minister.
Recent polling has suggested that his party could secure at least eight Knesset seats, making it a potentially important participant in negotiations over the formation of the next government.
