Ex-Shin Bet Chief Yoram Cohen: No Coalition With Chareidi Parties Without Universal Service — Even if It Means New Elections
Former Shin Bet director Yoram Cohen, the No. 2 candidate in Gadi Eisenkot’s Yashar party, said that chareidi parties will have no place in a future coalition led by his party unless they accept a requirement for military or civilian service for all Israeli citizens, declaring that Yashar would maintain that position even at the cost of another election.
Cohen made the comments in his first interview with chareidi media, speaking with Yishai Cohen of Kikar HaShabbat. The former Shin Bet chief also addressed responsibility for the October 7 massacre, rejected claims that security officials deliberately withheld information from Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu that night, discussed his decision to enter politics alongside Eisenkot, and expressed confidence that Eisenkot will form the next government.
Explaining why he agreed to appear before a chareidi audience, Cohen said, “I think there is room for the chareidi public as well to hear what we have to say and what our plans are. Sometimes there is also criticism of us, but in my opinion, they should know what the facts are. And I also believe that a certain segment, which we cannot currently estimate, might even vote for us.”
Cohen was asked about a recent Haaretz report claiming that UAE President Mohammed bin Zayed had warned Netanyahu before October 7 about a possible major development involving Gaza.
“I don’t know any intimate details about this incident,” Cohen said. “Such a report could be true, but I think it would be preferable — let’s say, for everyone’s sake — for there to be confirmation from an international source that would verify it.”
Cohen then criticized Netanyahu’s credibility and said the prime minister had received other warnings before the war, although he stressed that they were not specific warnings about an attack from Gaza.
“The problem we have, I think, is Mr. Netanyahu, the prime minister, who has already been caught several times in lies and in not telling the truth about events that definitely occurred,” Cohen said. “And the second thing is that he did receive warnings both from the head of the Shin Bet and the head of Military Intelligence before the war — not warnings about Gaza, but warnings about war. And these things, either he dismissed them, as we saw on Channel 14, or he did not attribute importance to them.”
Asked how he apportions responsibility for the failures that culminated in the October 7 massacre, Cohen said the greatest immediate responsibility rested with the professional security establishment, particularly the IDF and Shin Bet.
“I think the weight of the responsibility first of all falls on the professional echelon — mainly the IDF and Shin Bet — because they failed to produce a sufficiently strong, good warning about Hamas’ intention to invade the State of Israel, and that is a very major failure,” Cohen said.
He said the Mossad also bore responsibility regarding intelligence connected to meetings in Qatar, Beirut and Damascus and the possibility of a coordinated regional attack that ultimately did not materialize.
“But the central failure is, of course, the failure to provide a warning,” Cohen continued. “The second thing: our defenses collapsed, and after that our fighting was not sufficiently effective.”
At the same time, Cohen said significant responsibility also belonged to Israel’s political leadership, particularly Netanyahu.
“But there is also significant weight on the political echelon, headed by the prime minister, because the prime minister intensively, over the course of years, shaped Israel’s security concept — both the concept of containment vis-à-vis Hamas and other things that were much worse, such as giving approval to the Qataris to fund Hamas for years on a very large scale,” Cohen said.
Cohen was also asked whether he agreed with Naftali Bennett’s call for a future government to designate Qatar an enemy state on its first day in office.
“I think they should have been defined long ago as a state hostile to Israel,” Cohen responded. He added that the precise designation should be determined through a formal discussion involving the Mossad, Foreign Ministry, National Security Council, Shin Bet and other relevant agencies rather than through a declaration made solely for the media.
The interview then turned to Netanyahu’s contention that had he been awakened during the early morning hours of October 7, the outcome could have been different.
“I think there was reason to wake him,” Cohen said.
But Cohen strongly rejected the contention that senior security officials recognized that a major Hamas invasion was imminent and deliberately decided not to inform Netanyahu.
“The problem was this: both the Shin Bet, or the Shin Bet leadership, and the IDF leadership, generally speaking, did not think we were facing an event like this,” Cohen said. “It’s not that they thought we were facing an attack and decided not to wake the prime minister. That is not true!”
Cohen said the available intelligence from Military Intelligence and the Shin Bet was transmitted to the National Security Council and the prime minister’s military secretariat at approximately 3 or 4 a.m.
“All the information that Military Intelligence had and the Shin Bet had was passed to the National Security Council and to the military secretariat of the prime minister at around three-four in the morning — all the information they had,” he said.
“The second thing: their assessments were also passed along, and those assessments were wrong. They were not correct assessments; they were wrong assessments. So they did not hide it from the prime minister.”
Cohen said he had personally seen the written summary prepared by then-Shin Bet director Ronen Bar after Bar unusually summoned his senior staff to Tel Aviv during the night.
“I saw the memorandum, meaning the summary Ronen Bar made after he brought his entire staff, unusually, to Tel Aviv,” Cohen said. “They discussed the matter, and at five in the morning he summarized all the alternatives they saw, and he instructed his chief of staff to send that summary to the prime minister.”
Cohen then discussed his decision to enter politics and explained why he chose to join Eisenkot’s Yashar party.
“I had meetings and offers from almost all the heads of the Zionist parties,” Cohen said. “I rejected them for various reasons. I think we are in a time of crisis following the war, with challenges both within Israeli society and in security.”
“I chose Gadi because I have known him for 30 years,” Cohen continued. “I know his personal capabilities, his character, his functional independence, the depth of his thinking, and especially two important qualities that today are almost no longer common currency: the first thing — he is a reliable person. I’m not saying others are unreliable, but his reliability is at a very high level. And the second thing — he sets a personal example that I very much appreciate.”
Asked whether he was seeking a particular senior ministry, such as defense or national security, Cohen said no position had been promised to him.
“It’s clear that I came into politics in order to have an influence, and in order to have an influence, you need to fill central positions,” he said. “I did not set any condition with Gadi, and I did not sign any contract or memorandum of understanding with him regarding a position or a number.”
“Our job, and we are working hard for it, is to win the election, lead the bloc, for Gadi to be prime minister — and he will be an excellent prime minister — and afterward we will see the results and the coalition.”
Cohen then laid out what he described as three fundamental conditions for parties seeking to join a Yashar-led coalition.
“We want to get above 61 so that we will have stability,” Cohen said. “But we want to do that and create or shape a coalition with parties that will stand with us on three important principles, which are also important to chareidi society: that they recognize that the state is a Jewish and democratic state; the values of the Declaration of Independence; universal service.”
“Universal service means universal service: men will serve three years, either in military service or civilian service,” Cohen continued. “And from our perspective right now, unfortunately — and I say unfortunately, I regret it very much — neither the chareidi parties nor, by contrast, the Arab parties accept these three principles, and therefore they are not relevant.”
Cohen sharply criticized the chareidi political and rabbinic leadership over its position on the draft, saying he believes it has failed to recognize the military’s manpower needs.
“I think this is a very serious mistake by the chareidi political leadership and even the rabbinic leadership, that they do not grasp the gravity of the hour and the need, and they do not come and say, ‘Something has changed. We need to enter negotiations and see how we can help a public that needs combat manpower.’ Combat! We don’t need kosher supervisors, and we don’t even need Army Radio.”
At the same time, Cohen said Yashar does not expect the transition to universal service to happen instantaneously.
“We did not come with a framework — I don’t want to use the word populist — but we know that going from zero to 100 is something that will take… it is a process; it will take a very long time.”
Cohen said Eisenkot’s proposal would allow exemptions for up to 3% of the overall annual cohort, including exceptional Torah scholars as well as outstanding individuals in other fields.
“That means that out of 150,000 people who enlist in a year, 3% of them will receive an exemption — these are the exceptional individuals,” Cohen said. “These exceptional individuals will probably mostly be chareidim, but there will be musicians, there will be athletes, and there will be other people whom a committee will determine are exceptional, and they will receive a deferment.”
“We, out of respect for Torah, see a need for this and see importance in it, not to cut down the entire tree from below,” Cohen said. “But we believe we have a need. We are not coming from a place of revenge.”
The interviewer then noted that while Shas has declared its loyalty to Netanyahu, United Torah Judaism figures have indicated that they could potentially negotiate with Eisenkot following the election. Cohen was asked directly whether Yashar’s door would be open to UTJ if the party refused to accept universal service.
“There is nowhere to go!” Cohen responded.
“Universal service for all citizens of the State of Israel, Jews and Arabs, is our central banner because it is an existential need,” he said.
Cohen described the issue as an essential condition for joining the coalition.
“On the security issue, which you asked about — this is the cornerstone of joining the coalition,” he said. “Whoever does not reconsider and engage in soul-searching, and excuse me for saying this — changes his ways on this matter, and combines the sword and the book rather than only the book, I don’t think he is part of the coalition.”
Asked whether that meant United Torah Judaism should understand that it has no alternative coalition option to Netanyahu under the current circumstances, Cohen answered, “Certainly.”
He then criticized what he described as political pressure over jobs and funding and raised concerns about the image of the chareidi community among secular Israelis.
“What, doesn’t it bother people?” Cohen asked. “What a bad image there is! We need to go back and do our homework on everything: on the image of the chareidim, on the partnership of the chareidim.”
The interviewer then cited MK Moshe Gafni’s contention that declarations excluding chareidi parties are campaign rhetoric and that after the election, a bloc without 61 seats would ultimately offer the chareidi parties at least as much as Netanyahu in order to form a government.
“I am prepared to commit that it will not happen,” Cohen responded. “I am prepared to commit that it will not happen!”
Asked explicitly whether he would maintain that position even if the alternative were another election, Cohen replied: “Even at the price of repeat elections!”
Cohen predicted that Yashar and its prospective partners would nevertheless secure enough support to form a government, while saying the party was also in contact with individuals currently aligned with the governing coalition.
“And there is an option… We will reach more than 61 and 63, and we will form a government,” Cohen said. “And I’m already telling you here that in the conversations we have, in the contacts we have — we also have contacts with people from within the current coalition. And I believe that under the circumstances today, some of them will also find a door to us the day after the election.”
{Matzav.com}
