“WHY FIGHT HITLER?” Tucker Carlson Questions Britain’s Entry Into WWII, Echoes Hitler’s Case Against Poland and Draws Rebuke From Rees-Mogg
Tucker Carlson has ignited a fierce controversy after questioning why Britain fought Nazi Germany in World War II, arguing that London had no reason to enter the conflict over Poland and repeating elements of Adolf Hitler’s justification for the 1939 invasion — remarks that prompted former British cabinet minister Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg to tell Carlson that he was “verging on defending Hitler.”
The extraordinary exchange came during a lengthy interview between Carlson and Rees-Mogg that was initially centered on Britain’s military preparedness, Russia and the war in Ukraine. Their discussion eventually turned to civilian casualties in wartime and then to the Second World War itself.
“I think it’s very difficult to have fought the Second World War without innocent people being killed,” Rees-Mogg said.
Carlson responded by questioning the premise of Britain’s involvement altogether.
“I’ve never understood why fight the Second World War in the first place?” Carlson said.
Rees-Mogg appeared taken aback.
“Well,” he replied, “that’s a very fundamental question.”
Carlson then turned to Hitler’s invasion of Poland, which began on September 1, 1939 and led Britain and France to declare war on Germany two days later. Britain had given Poland a security guarantee earlier that year as Hitler’s expansion across Europe accelerated.
Rees-Mogg argued that Hitler had already demonstrated an appetite for continued territorial expansion, telling Carlson, “Hitler would’ve taken as much as he could’ve done, as he was showing.”
Carlson pushed back by invoking Germany’s territorial losses after World War I.
“Well, Hitler said that 15% was once Germany and it was given to Poland at the Treaty of Versailles. That was German territory with Germans in it. That was his case. And by the way, that was true.”
Carlson insisted that he was not defending Hitler, but said the Nazi invasion should not be portrayed as an inexplicable act of aggression divorced from Germany’s territorial grievances after World War I.
“I’m certainly not here defending Hitler. I’m just saying the idea that Hitler just randomly rolled into Poland is a lie and everyone believes it because they know nothing about the actual facts. But the truth is, Germany had big pieces of it carved off, including part of Prussia and it was given to this other country. It infuriated the Germans. Maybe it shouldn’t have, but it did. And that was the justification for it.”
He then argued that none of those disputes justified Britain entering the war.
“The U.K. had nothing to do with it at all,” Carlson said.
Rees-Mogg countered that Britain had commitments to its allies, but Carlson maintained that entering the war had ultimately devastated Britain.
“They destroyed their empire and their country fighting this war that they still pretend was a good idea, but it wasn’t,” Carlson said.
Rees-Mogg strongly rejected that assessment.
“It was fundamental. It was the classic good-versus-evil,” he said.
Carlson asked whether Britain had actually benefited from defeating Nazi Germany.
“Has the U.K. benefitted from it?” he asked.
“We did the right thing,” Rees-Mogg replied.
“Is it a better country than it was?” Carlson asked.
“To have defeated Hitler? Yes,” Rees-Mogg answered.
Carlson pressed him again: “So, the U.K. is a better country now? It’s a healthier country now?”
Rees-Mogg responded with a familiar argument about what Nazi victory might have meant for Britain.
“Otherwise, we’d all be speaking German.”
“Who cares?” Carlson shot back.
“I do,” Rees-Mogg replied.
Carlson continued, “There are a lot of people in Britain who can’t speak English. So, it would be nice to have like, at least a European language spoken in your country.”
“No, I see no advantage speaking German over any other language. We want to speak English, thank you so much,” Rees-Mogg responded.
The debate later became even sharper when Carlson argued that Hitler had repeatedly indicated that he did not want a war with Britain. Rees-Mogg cautioned Carlson against taking Hitler’s declarations at face value, noting the Nazi dictator’s record of making assurances and then violating them.
“You seem to be putting more trust in Hitler than I would,” Rees-Mogg told him. “He said all sorts of things.”
Rees-Mogg then directly confronted Carlson over the direction of his argument.
“I’m very surprised you’re verging on defending Hitler. I think this is not really what you want to be doing,” he said.
Carlson answered sarcastically before explicitly rejecting the accusation.
“Yeah, I guess I’m just a secret Nazi,” he said. “I’m actually not a secret Nazi. And hardly a public Nazi. I’m just someone who tries to think clearly about cause and effect.”
“I’m reassured,” Rees-Mogg replied.
Rees-Mogg maintained that Nazi Germany eventually would have turned against Britain regardless of whether London initially stayed out of the conflict.
“Germany would have invaded us,” he said.
Historically, Carlson’s argument touches on genuine German resentment over the territorial settlement imposed after World War I, but Hitler’s attack on Poland went far beyond an effort to recover German-populated territory. Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union had secretly agreed in August 1939 to divide spheres of influence in Eastern Europe, and after Germany invaded Poland from the west on September 1, Soviet forces invaded from the east on September 17.
Nazi rule in occupied Poland subsequently involved mass executions, deportations and persecution, culminating in the systematic murder of Polish Jewry and millions of other victims.
Britain’s decision to declare war also followed years of German expansion. Hitler had remilitarized the Rhineland, annexed Austria in 1938 and, after the Munich Agreement transferred the Sudetenland to Germany, occupied the remaining Czech lands in March 1939. Britain subsequently guaranteed Poland against German aggression.
The Carlson-Rees-Mogg clash therefore centered on a broader historical question: whether Britain could or should have remained outside the European conflict as Nazi Germany continued expanding across the continent.
Carlson repeatedly framed the issue through what the war ultimately cost Britain, arguing that victory over Germany came alongside the collapse of the British Empire, enormous loss of life, economic devastation and a diminished international position. Rees-Mogg countered that those costs did not make the decision to resist Hitler wrong.
The remarks quickly generated criticism from prominent conservatives on both sides of the Atlantic. Among the sharpest responses came from U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee.
“When it seemed impossible for Toxic Tucker to descend deeper into the sewer here he goes opining that UK should have let Nazis take over. Forget that Hitler murdered 11 million people? I thought Tucker was against killing? He needs help. Serious help.”
Sen. Ted Cruz also rejected Carlson’s argument.
“Yes, Tucker, the UK is better off for winning WWII. America is better off for winning WWII. And the world would be much worse off if the Nazis had won WWII. This is not complicated.”
The controversy is not Carlson’s first involving revisionist arguments about World War II. In 2024, he hosted Darryl Cooper for an interview in which Cooper described Winston Churchill as the “chief villain” of World War II, triggering widespread criticism from historians and political figures. Carlson defended the decision to host Cooper as part of a willingness to challenge accepted historical narratives.
The latest discussion arose as Carlson challenged Rees-Mogg’s support for Britain maintaining a strong defense posture and continuing to support Ukraine against Russia. Carlson repeatedly questioned whether Britain was risking another catastrophic conflict by confronting Moscow, while Rees-Mogg argued that military preparedness and Western support for Ukraine are intended to deter aggression rather than provoke a war.
