ODD COUPLE IN CITY HALL: Mamdani Reveals Why He and Trump Keep Talking — and Says They Even Text Each Other
[Video below.] New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani says the explanation for his unexpectedly cordial relationship with President Donald Trump is surprisingly simple: despite their deep political disagreements, the two share an attachment to New York City and have found concrete issues on which they can work together — particularly Mamdani’s ambitious plan to build 12,000 homes over Sunnyside Yard in Queens.
Appearing Monday night on “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” during the program’s special week of broadcasts from Brooklyn, Mamdani opened up about a relationship that has drawn considerable attention since Trump and the democratic socialist mayor began meeting following Mamdani’s election last year.
“The president and I have many disagreements, but one thing we do agree on is this city and how much we love this city,” Mamdani told Kimmel, a frequent and outspoken critic of Trump.
Mamdani said he decided from his first meeting with Trump that their conversations should focus less on their political differences and more on areas in which cooperation between Washington and City Hall could produce tangible results for New Yorkers.
“And so from that first meeting in November of last year, I was just thinking of how can we make this meeting not about us, but about New Yorkers. How can we spend that time talking about the things that could make life in this city a little bit easier. That’s what it’s been, whether we met at the White House or at Gracie Mansion,” the mayor said.
The unusual relationship has evolved substantially since last year’s mayoral campaign, when Trump repeatedly attacked Mamdani and Mamdani sharply criticized the president and his policies.
Since Mamdani took office, however, the two have maintained direct communication, including telephone calls, text messages and multiple face-to-face meetings.
Mamdani revealed to Kimmel that he and Trump text “from time to time,” with much of their recent communication centering on Sunnyside Yard and other issues involving New York City.
The Queens project has emerged as perhaps the clearest explanation for why the two politicians have maintained an open line despite their ideological differences.
Mamdani wants to construct a massive platform over Sunnyside Yard, the sprawling active rail facility in Queens, and develop an entirely new neighborhood containing approximately 12,000 homes.
The project would also create an estimated 30,000 jobs, according to City Hall, but it cannot proceed without substantial federal involvement. Building above the rail yard would require complicated federal approvals and potentially billions of dollars in federal assistance.
Trump has shown particular interest in the proposal, drawing on his decades of experience in New York real estate and his familiarity with Sunnyside.
During Trump’s visit to Gracie Mansion earlier this month, the president said he had watched developers attempt to figure out Sunnyside Yard for decades.
“Well, I can tell you that Sunnyside is a big job. I’ve been watching that for 35 years. Everybody has wanted to do something with Sunnyside Yard. We met at the White House a couple of times. But we met at the White House. The mayor brought that up, the possibility of doing Sunnyside Yard,” Trump said.
“It’s a very — I would say that was a very federal-oriented job. You’re going to need a lot of federal approvals and probably some federal money to do it. But it’s always been a great location. I owned a building in Sunnyside. It was a great building. I know it very well. So, when he mentioned Sunnyside Yard, they’ve been talking about developing that for 50 years. So maybe they have a shot at doing it.”
The September 21 Gracie Mansion meeting moved the proposal another step forward, with Mamdani and Trump agreeing that technical discussions would begin between City Hall’s housing and operations officials and their counterparts in the White House.
No federal funding commitment has been made, and the massive project remains a long way from construction.
Mamdani said Monday night that his communications with Trump continue to focus on how the federal and city governments can “deliver for the city.”
Kimmel, intrigued by the idea that Mamdani and Trump actually exchange text messages, asked whether Trump’s private texts resemble his social-media posts, which frequently feature capital letters and emphatic punctuation.
Mamdani said Trump’s private messages are far more conventional, describing their punctuation and capitalization as normal.
Kimmel then suggested that he and Mamdani take a selfie together and send it to Trump.
Mamdani declined.
“Jimmy, I love you, but I love housing more,” Mamdani quipped.
Mamdani also addressed one of the more widely circulated moments from Trump’s recent Gracie Mansion visit: video showing the mayor standing alongside the president and blinking slowly as Trump spoke to reporters.
The mayor joked that viewers may have interpreted his expression as a reaction to Trump, but said his mind was actually on the Sunnyside Yard project.
The Gracie Mansion meeting was itself unusual. Trump became the first sitting president in decades to visit the mayoral residence, and the two spent roughly an hour privately discussing housing, immigration and other city issues before appearing together before reporters.
Mamdani also raised the status of Haitian New Yorkers who face the loss of Temporary Protected Status, an issue on which the mayor has pressed Trump directly.
The relationship between the two men has been especially striking because of the rhetoric that preceded it.
During the 2025 campaign, Trump repeatedly denounced Mamdani’s democratic socialist politics and warned about the direction New York would take under his leadership.
Mamdani, meanwhile, campaigned as a sharp critic of Trump and continues to oppose major elements of the president’s immigration and domestic agenda.
Their tone changed dramatically following Mamdani’s election.
After meeting with Mamdani, Trump publicly praised him and expressed hope that he would succeed as mayor, while Mamdani emphasized that his willingness to work with the president did not mean abandoning their disagreements.
That unexpected détente has continued through multiple meetings.
At Gracie Mansion last week, Trump again offered strikingly warm words about the mayor.
“I certainly hope he will be a great mayor. You have to understand I want what’s good for New York. I want what’s good for the country. So if I had a choice of having him be a bad mayor or horrible mayor, I don’t want that. I want him to be a great mayor, and he certainly got potential, a great potential,” Trump said.
Monday’s interview took place at the Brooklyn Academy of Music’s Howard Gilman Opera House, where “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” is spending the week broadcasting from New York rather than its regular Hollywood studio.
When Kimmel jokingly asked whether Mamdani might consider becoming mayor of Los Angeles once his time running New York was finished, Mamdani turned him down, making clear where his loyalties remained.
“It’s New York City,” Mamdani said.
{Matzav.com}
