CORRUPTION AT AN ALL-TIME LOW? Obama Says Federal Government Is “So Much Less Corrupt” Than in the Past
Former President Barack Obama is arguing that despite widespread public cynicism about Washington, corruption within the federal government has actually declined dramatically over the course of American history, saying that traditional forms of political graft such as bribery, patronage and favors are far less common today.
“People are always surprised when I tell them the federal government is so much less corrupt than probably it’s ever been, in terms of just pure bribes, or patronage or favors,” Obama said in a preview clip from his newly released podcast, “A Great Book with Barack Obama.”
The remarks appear in Obama’s new six-part Audible series, which premiered Thursday. Produced by Audible and Higher Ground, the media company founded by Barack and Michelle Obama, the podcast features discussions with prominent writers and thinkers about books that influenced Obama’s thinking and broader American society. Audible confirmed that the series debuted Sept. 24 and consists of six episodes.
Obama made his comments about government corruption during the third episode, a conversation with Pulitzer Prize-winning historian and New Yorker staff writer Jill Lepore centered on Robert Penn Warren’s 1946 novel “All the King’s Men.”
The discussion about the Pulitzer Prize-winning political novel, which traces the rise and downfall of a fictional Southern populist politician, led Obama to reflect on his own experiences in the Illinois state legislature, Congress and the White House and on the way political power was once exercised.
“It was interesting, as I was coming up through the state legislature, and then Congress and the presidency — you mentioned Lyndon Johnson, part of the reason that kind of cornering folks and hustling them for votes worked, it wasn’t just physical intimidation. It was like, ‘What do you need?’” Obama told Lepore while discussing the book about a fictional farmer-turned-populist governor’s rise and eventual downfall amid political corruption in the South.
Obama suggested that a series of political reforms, including changes implemented before and after the Watergate scandal, sharply reduced the ability of politicians to maintain the old-style political machines that relied on exchanging favors and votes.
“Part of what was interesting is that a lot of reforms that we think of as positive — pre-Watergate, post-Watergate — eliminated or greatly reduced the possibilities of maintaining those old political machines, and trading votes and doing favors,” Obama, 65, said.
But Obama argued that the disappearance of those practices also had an unintended consequence: It eliminated some of the mechanisms politicians had historically used to overcome ideological divisions and assemble coalitions in Congress.
“And it’s part of the reason why things got a little harder to get done because that was sort of some lubrication in a lot of Congress to help to bridge some of the ideological differences that were out there and get people to vote for things that weren’t that comfortable,” he said.
Lepore agreed that despite the corruption and other problems associated with the old political-machine system, those organizations sometimes played a meaningful role in connecting politicians, communities and civic institutions.
“I think there’s a degree to which that kind of political machine — I don’t mean to whitewash it in any way — but was kind of crucial to civil society.”
Lepore said Progressive Era reforms produced important changes, including campaign-finance rules and stronger protections for voters, while simultaneously contributing to the demise of traditional political machines. What emerged afterward, she argued, was a different political infrastructure centered around professional consultants.
“Like what happened in the Progressive Era, among the many good government reforms that these people were making — campaign finance reform and protections for voters — yeah, it did kill the political machine. But what replaced the political machine was the political consultants industry,” Lepore, a staff writer for The New Yorker, said.
Obama’s discussion with Lepore is one of six conversations in the Audible series.
{Matzav.com}
