During a CNN town hall on Wednesday night, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York and Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont grew visibly frustrated when Ocasio-Cortez was asked if Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer should be worried about a possible primary challenge from her.
Both lawmakers bristled at the question, raising their voices as they dismissed the topic and accused the media and Republicans of ignoring more pressing national concerns.
“I mean, no, because I don’t think this is about anything… This is what we’re talking about!” Ocasio-Cortez exclaimed.
As she began to respond, Sanders jumped in forcefully. “Let me jump in on this one,” he said, before launching into a tirade about the nation’s problems.
“That’s exactly what we’re talking… we have a country that is falling apart!” he shouted. “We had a housing crisis, a health care crisis, an education crisis, massive income and wealth inequality, corrupt campaign finances, and the media says, ‘Are you going to run? What are you going to run for?’ Nobody cares!”
CNN moderator Kaitlan Collins countered that the question wasn’t random, noting that both Vice President JD Vance and President Donald Trump have recently brought up the possibility of Ocasio-Cortez challenging Schumer in 2026.
Sanders argued that those remarks from Vance and Trump were simply an attempt to “deflect attention away from the real issues,” pivoting again to what he described as America’s systemic failures.
“We’re living in the richest country in the history of the world, right? All right, you tell me why we’re the only nation not to guarantee health care to all people. The only nation not to guarantee paid family and medical leave, why we have a $7.25 an hour minimum wage, why we have 800,000 people sleeping out on the street,” Sanders said.
“Let’s talk about that issue — not her political future. She’ll decide that,” Sanders added, bringing the exchange to a close.
The discussion was only the latest instance of speculation about Ocasio-Cortez’s potential rise within the Democratic Party, which has intensified amid internal disputes over Schumer’s approach to the ongoing government shutdown.
Earlier this month, Ocasio-Cortez appeared on MSNBC to discuss the stalemate, telling Republicans, “My office is open, and you are free to walk in and negotiate with me directly,” a statement that prompted fresh questions from GOP lawmakers about who is truly steering Democratic strategy.
In the days following that appearance, former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was confronted by a reporter asking if Republicans should take Ocasio-Cortez up on her offer.
“There was a thought from the Republicans that AOC is directing this, and she said that senators are welcome to go to her office directly. Is she driving that?” the reporter asked.
“Why are you saying such a ridiculous thing?” Pelosi shot back. “She’s wonderful, she’s a real team player, and the rest of that. You started by saying Republicans say that she’s directing this. She is not, Hakeem Jeffries is.”
{Matzav.com}