President Trump and ABC News anchor Terry Moran went toe-to-toe in a tense one-on-one interview Tuesday evening, marking the milestone of Trump’s first 100 days back in the Oval Office.
Throughout the nearly hour-long broadcast, Trump and Moran clashed on a range of hot-button topics, including international trade, border enforcement, and foreign policy, with the conversation often turning combative as the ABC journalist challenged the president on his record and rhetoric.
The first flashpoint came when Moran brought up Trump’s recently imposed 145% tariffs on Chinese goods, questioning whether such high duties would inevitably lead to a spike in consumer prices in the U.S. Trump pushed back hard.
“You don’t know that, you don’t know whether or not China’s going to eat it,” Trump interrupted.
“That’s mathematics,” Moran retorted.
“China probably will eat those tariffs,” Trump replied.
The president doubled down: “But at 145%, they basically can’t do much business with the United States.”
“And, they were making from us a trillion dollars a year, they were ripping us off like nobody’s ever ripped us off.”
“Everything’s going to be just fine. It wouldn’t have been if I didn’t do this.”
When the conversation turned to immigration — long considered one of Trump’s signature issues — he declared that his aggressive enforcement approach marked the most “significant” achievement of his early days in office.
Moran countered by citing existing legal protections for those facing deportation, stating that, “under our law, every single person who gets deported gets a hearing first.” Trump pushed back and refused to concede the point.
“When Biden allowed 21 million people to flow into a country … did we give them a hearing when they came in?” he asked, while Moran stood firm, repeating that “the law requires” a hearing for each deportee.
Trump said he would “ask the lawyers about that,” but noted that conducting “trials” for “21 million” individuals would grind the system to a halt.
“The law is the law,” Moran emphasized. But Trump insisted that due process was being observed.
“They get whatever my lawyers say,” Trump said, describing the standards being used to handle deportations under his administration.
The interview grew even more pointed when Moran referenced the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an accused MS-13 member who was deported under Trump’s directive based on the 1798 Alien Enemies Act.
Responding to a Justice Department official who had criticized the deportation as erroneous, Trump replied, “The lawyer that said it was a mistake — was here a long time, was not appointed by us — should not have said that.”
Moran clarified, “not saying [Garcia] is a good guy,” but pressed the principle at stake.
“It’s about the rule of law,” Moran said, citing the unanimous ruling from the Supreme Court ordering that the administration “facilitate” Garcia’s return.
“You could get him back,” Moran challenged. “There’s a phone on this desk. You could pick it up and call up the president of El Salvador and say, ‘Send him back now.’”
Trump remained unmoved.
“If he were the gentleman that you say he is, I would do that.”
They also debated the authenticity of Garcia’s tattoos, which Trump claimed were unmistakable signs of gang affiliation.
“He had MS-13 on his knuckles,” Trump said.
“That was Photoshop,” Moran replied dismissively.
“That was Photoshop? … Terry, you’re not being very nice,” Trump snapped.
The anchor sought to steer the discussion forward as Trump reiterated, with conviction, that the markings were plainly visible.
“Alright,” Moran said, exhaling. “We’ll take a look ….”
In another sharp exchange, Moran asked Trump whether he trusted Russian President Vladimir Putin. The question triggered a curt reply.
“I don’t trust you,” Trump responded, adding, “I don’t trust a lot of people.”
Trump argued that while the war between Russia and Ukraine continues, his influence had thwarted Putin’s broader ambitions.
“I don’t trust a lot of people. But I do think this. I think that [Putin] – let’s say he respects me. And I believe because of me he’s not gonna take over the whole — but his decision, his choice would be to take over all of Ukraine.”
When pressed about whether the U.S. would halt military aid to Ukraine if peace talks break down, Trump declined to commit either way.
“I want to leave that as a big, fat secret, because I don’t want to ruin a negotiation.”
{Matzav.com}